Mark Everett, known as E, is the creative force behind the rock band Eels. His latest project is a documentary film about the father he barely knew ā the physicist , originator of the . Peter Aldhous asks E what this has taught him about his father and his ideas.
How did the film come about?
The BBC came to me, and I couldnāt say no. I like to do things that I get something out of. Iāve dealt with a lot of my family issues by making albums about them. The documentary made me feel uncomfortable. Iāve written a lot of songs that make me feel really uncomfortable ā those might be the ones that are really worth it.
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You lived with your father for 19 years, yet you say he was a stranger. Can you explain?
My father was always a physical presence, but he was just like a piece of furniture to me. When my sister was younger he might have been a bit more communicative, maybe. But I didnāt see a lot of interaction with any of us. It was a weird and lonely childhood, because we were left to figure everything out on our own. You never get to feel like a child, and you learn everything the hard way. It was the sink-or-swim theory of child rearing.
Why do you think your father was so withdrawn?
He never faltered in his belief over his many-worlds theory, whereas no one else took it seriously. So he just gave up. That must be such an incredibly lonely feeling.
Yet by many measures your father was successful. He did classified research for the Pentagon and later became wealthy applying mathematical modelling in industry.
Itās nice that he went on to find other success, but you canāt help but wonder where he might have gone if he had gotten more encouragement in the world of physics.
Why didnāt he get that support?
With relativity, Albert Einstein offered the world an appetiser before the main course, and that made it easier to swallow. My father just offered up the main course. It was hard for those on the Mount Rushmore of physics ā Einstein and Niels Bohr ā to say āWeāre going to let this kid knock our faces offā. He went to Copenhagen in 1959, naively thinking that he was going to change Bohrās mind. To me, thatās the defining moment of his life. After that he crawled into his shell.
Had he shown any signs of depression before that?
Well, the family has a strain of crazy in it: his mother had mental problems and my sister committed suicide. But the Copenhagen situation could take anyone who didnāt have any problems and make them depressed.
Before you made the film, you didnāt know much about your fatherās work. What does his theory mean to you now?
The thing that we all have a problem wrapping our brains around is the part that something else is happening somewhere. Where is āsomewhereā? What made it easier to understand was learning that my father saw the observer as the whole problem with quantum mechanics. So we are not meant to observe it, right? Youāve just got to let go and believe, because it makes a lot of sense.
Does knowing about his theory help you understand him as a man?
It makes it easier to let him off the hook for any shortcomings he had as a father, because weāre dealing with someone thatās way above in terms of how his mind works. Einstein wasnāt a great family man, either. These guys, I donāt think they should be held to subscribe to normal rules. I think that about rock stars, too.
His theory suggests that every choice we make spawns a series of parallel realities, which is a difficult idea. Has it affected your own outlook?
No, because Iām not a genius physicist. Iāve got my hands full with this world and I think in linear terms, as far as that goes. It can mean a lot of bad things are happening in the parallel universes ā but if thatās the way the world works, thatās the way the world works.
Are you similar to your father?
I think I am in a lot of ways. I tend to be a very isolated person. Iām a workaholic, like he was. Weāre both ideas men, in different ways. A lot of the time youāre so busy sorting out all of these ideas that anything else is a distraction.
Youāve had critical acclaim. Did that make your life turn out differently to your fatherās?
Music saved my life. Without it, Iād have probably done what my sister did ā gone off to meet our father in a parallel universe. The added bonus of getting patted on the back is something that I wish could have happened for my father. It only happened a little bit towards the end of his life.
That recognition began with a meeting to discuss his theory in Austin, Texas, in 1977. Was there a change in him after that?
I actually went on that trip, but I didnāt really understand why we were going. Apparently my father was very happy about it. And from the tape recordings we found in my basement, you can tell that he sounds happy.
Did you listen to those tapes for the first time with the documentary cameras rolling?
Film-makers love doing stuff like that. It was very nerve-racking. I had no idea what I was going to hear. It was the first time Iād heard his voice in 25 years. In other parts, you could hear my mom laughing. Itās hard when all that is gone.
Did your father show any interest in your music? In the film, a colleague says that heād have been proud if only heād had the emotional vocabulary to express it.
That was very touching. Occasionally, when I was a teenager playing drums, he and my mom would come to a gig. And heād let my bands practise in our house. But itās hard to say whether that was a show of support or just part of their ridiculous child-rearing strategy.
If you hadnāt made the documentary, would your fatherās archive still be sealed?
I knew it was coming because people were getting more and more interested. After my father died, my mom started to get phone calls from what I call āphysics groupiesā. It increased as the years went on. But I was dreading having to be the ambassador from Planet Hugh Everett.
So will you draw a veil over the subject now the film has been made?
I donāt know. I wanted to give my father his day in the sun. I meet some of these physics professors and some of them are literally shaking with excitement. Now Iām actually interested in physics. But Iām not going to do any space rock operas. Iāll leave that to David Bowie.
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Eās band Eels has made a series of acclaimed albums, including Beautiful Freak, Electro-Shock Blues and Blinking Lights and Other Revelations. His father, Hugh Everett, died in 1982, 25 years after proposing the āmany worldsā theory, which envisages multiple quantum states as constantly giving rise to parallel universes. Eās documentary about his father, Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives, will air on BBC4 television on 26 November.